In the centre is a closed-cell foam which gives the canoe buoyancy. CORRECTION: In thinking through the details of our last trip it occured to me that on the longer portages (400M & up) I was not carrying the 20 lb day pack along with the canoe. The other numbers just represent production run stuff that does nothing for identifying the specifics of the canoe. The composite editions of the Explorer are much lighter, at 44 pounds for the Kevlar Fusion and 40 for the carbonversion. 3/4 . If youre keen on a solo canoe shorter than 12 feet or a canoe for less than $1,500, consider an Old Town. Check out how precariously close the mounting holes are in the thwart. by openboat Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:25 am, Post Mad River canoes are sold at independent outdoors stores and chains like REI. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Also not knowing exactly how the different fabrics looked. Mad River Sunrunner no experience with this model. I can sure relate to leaving the natural wood color too. Both have a good reputation for durability. Multiple emails sent as the way to contact in the ad - hope it isnt sold. For the prior weight attempt I simply held the canoe on my haunches but in thinking over this method I can imagine how that arrangement could've registered a lighter weight given I was somewhat off balance. Planned to take it outside for some glamor shots but this weekend has been absurdly hot and humid. We are a canoe and kayak livery on the Mad River, in Springfield, Ohio. It consists of three distinct layers. For more tips on what to look for when selecting a used canoe, read our article How To Buy A Used Canoe. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. All of the boats will work for you. Prices and availability may vary between country and retailers due to VAT and other taxes. Thanks very much. Beyond the ABS is a proprietary abrasion-resistant outer layer. Mad River Sunrunner - Kevlar with cane seats and wood gunwales and is a 1998. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. I tried to add a picture but it says the file is too big. There are some design aspects that you might overlook in a photo that can drastically affect your paddling experience. The Sunrunner was one of a series of ~ 17' touring hulls Jim Henry designed in the 80s and 90s. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best Offer Fiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. You should be able to get an idea of the weight by looking it up. You probably have access to a number of other brands there in WI, but these brands you listed are some of the most common across the country (aside from Coleman and Pelican, which I wouldnt recommend for you), so youre likely to get good feedback. thx. Awesome progress and enthusiasm Micah! 2015. I've got a Kevlar Explorer - there is a KA suffix on mine and it does have the Airex foam layers, which reinforces that idea. $50 cash The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. I plan to dark stain the gunwales and decks and then Exterior Watco them unless they still make Gunwale Guard. Re: Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbers. If youre considering a Mad River canoe, this article will help you decide which one is right for you. The camo seems to be too high quality and intricate for an individual to have done, and it appears to be under the gel coat inside and outside of the hull. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. I suspect the "KA" denotes a Kevlar/Airex Explorer model which MRC produced 1983-1995. Use the filters below to view the canoes by type, material, size or store. The gunwales are square. Plastic seats with aluminum struts between gunwales for seats (looks like the rivets for the seats go through the hull on the sides). Looking for discontinued models or older catalogs? No wood rot. No doubt it is well made but being mid 40's forces me to consider weight. Looks like someone purchased it, polished and putting up for sale. Thanks again guys. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. CL. However waiting in their phone queue right now so maybe close to getting some answers?? 3/4 . I'll look for into some of the most recent dimension questions later this week and get back to every one. All of our kevlar Mad River canoes, a Monarch, a Malecite and an Explorer, have HINs ending in K. I was curious about the various MRC listings for kevlar hybrid/PVC/Airex composite layups in the Sunrunner and other models and looked through some old catalogs for explanation. If you are looking for a superior built, light-weight canoe, then take a look at at this Mad River 18' TW Special. Sun bleached, 18' Mad River fiberglass canoe. boats. The serial number was put on the royalex hull using a black marker. The three brands are Old Town, Wenonah and Mad River that would fit our needs. Mad River Sunrunner - Kevlar with cane seats and wood gunwales and is a 1998. I agree that you want as light a boat as you can get to make it easy to use. I hope your wife likes the color and I hope you share your impressions of the boat once youve spent some time in it. If I again come up with 60 lbs then who knows. I am really looking for the same age Explorer in the same deep red color or other non red (cherry) or standard green. It has bench seats and a symmetrical hull so that solo or tandem paddlers can paddle the Journey. Canoe Mad River Explorer. My next question is with this boat in pretty much like new paddling shape what is it worth? 12.5 inch deep center. Has anybody ever seen a camo Kevlar boat? The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. abwoolsey June 20, 2020, 10:45pm #13. Based on the specs that Mike provided it relatively narrow and as a "stretched Malecite" your planned load is idealthe boat will be fast, maneuverable, and lightly loaded. Like the Adventure, the Journey is made with three-layer polyethylene. Swift Canoes made these for Mad River at their factory in South River, Ontario. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Scratches on the bottom but looks taken care of - asking $1,200. Two atypical layover days not counted. The T-Formex Remake. Thanks so much gents for your input. I cant comment on the last 2 boats. Pip. If you look at the Camper first thing to do is flip it over and see how much wear it has and whether the Royalex skin is intact. Throughout Mad Rivers history, theyve experimented with canoe designs and materials. Granted my HIIN states '94 but??? You should be able to tell if this is the case as there will be a visible roughly football-shaped raised area on the hull bottom where the Airex foam bottom core is and the raised contour of around 7 side ribs extending from that up to the gunwale line. I've also found that some combination of 100/150/220 grit is all you need to refinish or touch up a boat. There are three models most recently produced by Mad River: The Adventure, Journey andExplorer. JavaScript is disabled. in open water on large lakes. 3/4 . account. If you can measure your boat, I can look at the catalog and tell u what model. Canoes from companies that have been around for decades, like Mad River, will periodically make their way onto used listings. No wood rot. No wood rot. Will probably get this thing detailed out and seaworthy this winter and sell it. Its best if the canoe has been kept inside, or at the very least, away from direct sunlight. The Pathfinder is likely pretty old. It is a Mad River Canoe with serial # MADE5021L485 (The badeg is aged and so a little hard to read, so that is the best I can guess at a few of the characters!). I'll be interested in what you find out when you get out of the phone queue. Best one on the list in my opinion. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bowstern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. As of yesterday I had convinced myself this was a kevlar boat judging by how the weight felt as I shouldered it a number of times and put it on the truck. You must be right that the seat spacers are leftover gunwale stock as they measure identical with a caliper. This canoe is a one-owner, and has been garage kept. Have not looked yet. Could be good that you didn't find the green and white label Watco since that takes about a month or two to dryI've found the Teak Oil is a nice compromise and dries thoroughly in a day or two. The flat bottom on the Camper makes it feel stable on calm water. The Journey and Explorer qualify as versatile touring canoes. People upgrading or cleaning out a garage may just be trying to get rid of the boat rather than recoup much money. Still on the fence with what to do Micah, you should keep it and use it! Plus, with the tractor seats, hard to solo unless you add a drop-in center seat. Try as she might, shes never gotten comfortable with the traditional tippy canoe feeling, despite my explaining why that can actually be a good thing. For the prior weight attempt I simply held the canoe on my haunches but in thinking over this method I can imagine how that arrangement could've registered a lighter weight given I was somewhat off balance. The Pathfinder is $650. A UV-resistant coating provides additional sunprotection. As we get older weight matters. Thank you for your consideration. 3/4 . These canoes are ideal for anglers or families who are just beginning to dip theirpaddles. Located in Long Beach, St. Leonard, Md, Calvert County They stock many canoe parts and are knowledgeable about Mad River Canoes. I tried contacting MRC but havent gotten a reply yet (2 Weeks). I would like to get my hands on the stock end caps to see how they fit in considering your water-trap concern. Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. Your boat looks like new or maybe better. suggest swap out molded seats for standard web bench seats to facilitate solo paddling from the bow seat facing the stern. No wood rot. JavaScript is disabled. We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. The T-Formex Explorer is a bit lighter at 77 pounds. I bought the boat in 1976. They are just too perfect to have been replaced and this thing has had virtually no use. Took some photos this AM but have yet to compare with the info shown in the '94 catalog provided to me by customer service. Ive had good experiences in OT Campers over the years when used in the conditions youve mentioned. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. It sounds silly, but a light boat gets used more And just looking at the specs of the sunrunner it sounds like a well handling boat. You may still find some of last years models in shops, and decades worth of canoes on the used market. Generally my son would carry that with the food pack and then we did a return trip for the main gear pack. Nice canoe. $600 for the camper and $800 for the Discovery both say original owners. 68 lbsMust be glass. I bet he'd take $500. Mad Rivers canoes range in weight depending on the materials used to build them. About 67lbs. Instead got the bathroom scale out again and weighed myself and then me with shouldered canoe and did the math. 3/4 . Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. This canoe has provenitself time and again on trips I have taken in canada, maine, n.h. vt. Much tougher than I was in my 20's but definitely not stronger. Scratches on the bottom but looks taken care of - asking $1,200. No wood rot. Reading reviews provides the insight you wouldnt get otherwise. The versatile canoe for getting started; great for sportsmen and families, the Adventure 16 is an amazing value. Tracks beautifully I did get some info from tech support in the form of a '94 catalog. Maybe you have insight on this? DarnMy search for a good deal on a tripping canoe continues. Since used on gunwales this product must've been an oil so my guess is the seat spacers have just weathered differently than the seat frames, yoke, & thwart as the FAQ states those items were spar varnished. for sale. The boat is 16 long. If math correct420 lbs or thereabouts. Camper is a similar but better choice. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. If you come across an MRC for sale, email me the Ser # and I'll tell you everything I can (so long as it's a pre 2000 #). Does that mean it is a 1993? Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Re: Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbe, https://www.cboats.net/cforum/viewtopic ial+number, http://picasaweb.google.com/scott.broam/CanoeOutfitting. Or maybe following a test run in the spring I'll decide to keep it since it is so darned cool??? What surprised me was that some of the canoes are from the 1990s and must have had little use or well maintained. Here's the link to the Ed's cane repair kit. 2012-14. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. In those 6.5 days we logged 30 total portages for a total of 10,350M which is just shy of 6.5 miles with none of it being flat or easy. T-Formex is a stiff, durable material. No ribs however. Mad Rivers Explorer in Kevlar Fusion or carbon are both good choices for paddlers who want a lightweight composite canoe. The Sunrunner was just a weird design that almost nobody likes, the Destiny is just blah when compared with the Northwind that Bell has, and the Sunrunner and Spirit that . color: tan Restoring a Mad River Malecite fiberglass canoe in my basement. With similarly nice weather the last few days I am really starting. Hey Micah, I suggest that you put some oil on the cane seats immediately. But youd want to make sure you had calm conditions for going onto the Wisconsin. Here is another twistIn 94-96 the KV versions are listed at 55 lbs however in 97 it jumps to 59 which is just 2 lbs shy of what I measured. Maine-based Old Town is one of Americas original canoe manufacturers. They are focusing resources on two of their other brands, Perception and Wilderness Systems, to meet the surging demand for kayaks. Its a modern hull that does a lot of things very well. Don't worry about the freeboard, you have plenty. columbia, MO. The '94 catalog speaks of them being available for the kevlar and fiberglass boats so I am thinking they would be form-fit to some degree?? Really closer to 45 is ideal (and for the lucky among us Savage River makes full carbon boats in the low 30s!). 3/4 . Whether you're interested in canoe touring, tripping or an afternoon of fishing, getting YOU time is as easy as ever. Quebec-based canoe manufacturer Esquif produces T-Formex and builds this iteration of the Explorer. KE boats are not listed till the 2000 catalog so am wondering if marketing came up with that name to sexy-up the standard KV build?? 3) This one may be a bit of a stretch butFor the KH build, the layer just beneath the outer gelcoat states it is "S Glass" and when I search images for S Glass I see photos of weaves just like what I see with my boat. New ash inwales/gunnels, decks, new webbed seats, buffed the hull. The Journey has a minimal rocker, making it track (move straight) much better than the Explorer. http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=929356 For whatever it's worth figured I'd better clear this up as to not to calculate this all out under false premise. Thats not hard and would cost a little over $100 for seats, seat drops and hardware. Experience Mad River Canoe. From what I have read about varnish vs oil it makes sense that oil be used on components that flex as varnish is rigid and develops hairline fractures that over time allow water in. Mad River Mad River Model Produced Model Produced Adventure 14 2006-2008 Explorer 14 TT 2003-2010 . Note, this will travel on the top of my Toyota FJ Cruiser. These are reliable canoes for beginner and intermediate paddlers. Mad River canoes manufacturing location depends on the material. Check with the owner and ask how they stored the canoe. Mad Rivers archive list tells what years each of the models were produced but that only narrows down the options to the canoes manufactured in 1997(of which there are several) but doesnt get us to our specific model. The "Boats By Year" guide was made at least as late as 2011 so this could make sense. Prolonged UV exposure can cause canoes to warp or deform (thats not a reason to not paddle them on sunny days, however). I bought what I think is a Mad River Endurall from 1973 but the seller wasnt sure of the model. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. Old Town makes wide, stable polyethylene canoes for solo and tandem paddling. We have tooling for many more products than are offered here, such as Special Editions and retired models. I have read up on each individually and for general use they all seem good, but looking for opinions as the material and weight likely differ and it is hard to know exactly the weight due to the variations of models over the years and lengths 15 to 18 feet. Thanks Mike for the input and I agree many details point to this being a glass boat. 3/17 . Canoes finished with wooden gunwales look great and are lighter than typical aluminum or vinyl combinations. It's super gentleand that's what is on the Blackhawk in the pic. That looks like a great option. If the part you need is not stocked by Mad River Canoe or you don't see your canoe model listed, we suggest you try Edscanoes.com. With regular webbed seats the (symmetric) Camper can be paddled backwards from the bow seat for solo use. I am looking at some craiglist canoes this weekend. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. My first post here and the main reason for joining. Id lean towards the Camper for you and suggest that you and your wife try loading it to make sure youre comfy with the weight. Essential information like specifications, prices and places to buy them is displayed in a standard format, so you dont need to jump from one website to another. These Mad River canoes are designed for recreational paddling and touring, and different material options land at differentprices. The company was born shortly after the founder, Jim Henry, won the 1971 U.S. National Open Canoe Championship in his hand-built canoe. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Thanks, Avoid Royalex boats, cross-link poly, or other heavy types of boat construction. Here, youll find all the Mad River canoes on the market, as well as canoes built by other companies. Great all around boat. The 16-foot Explorer is the flagship model, and Mad Rivers bestselling canoe. If the Hull Identification Number on the stern ends in a K it is kevlar, and a boat weight will tell you the rest. If you find a Mad River canoe not currently listed on its website, you can get more information about the model by looking through the companys archived catalogs. The boat is Kevlar for sure. I found an older mad river Kevlar 49 and I'm trying to figure out the actual model of the boat. Based on your planned use however, Id guess its more boat than you need for two people doing day trips. Their heaviest boats are made from polyethylene, like the 85-pound Adventure 16. No wood rot. Also, any other info you HIN geeks can provide would be awesome. You can even use some kind of vegetable oil if you don't want to buy anything. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. by openboat Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:05 pm, Post As for the finished look, I am satisfied with the colors as the gunwales now match the seat cane and check out the paddle (came with the package deal if you can believe it) it all goes together. Theres a significant jump in quality between $600 canoes and ones from dedicated canoe builders. Looks like a beautiful canoe. Like LabsYoure picking a boat like some folks select Labs; I ant a Chocolate Lab. That often results in a poor dog, as color is a poor first determinate. You should buy the other boat too. With that said and in regards to your comment Gumpus on the Watco taking forever to dry, everything is still quite tacky. http://myccr.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=40923, http://www.edscanoe.com/doityourself.html, https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Precis70_&dpSrc=srch, Algonquin Park 2021: Tim Lake - Nipissing River - Magnetawan Lake Loop, Cooper Pond - The Hard Way (North Maine Woods), Algonquin Park May 2019: Kiosk to Birchcliffe Cabin Loop. Ive never paddled a Sunrunner but they have a solid reputation. Canoes hold their value exceptionally well. The Adventures are express tickets to the enjoyment of canoeing. VArious hardware goes with canoe. You can also target your search in specialized pages, like MEC Gearswap or a local paddling clubs used boat listings. You can take it for a week-long backcountry adventure or a float down a local river with your family. See photo. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe . It appears there is even a kneeling thwart just aft of the yoke for when you want to solo it. Mad River Canoe repair, new ash gunwales, seats, yoke and handles. Also, FYI I just sent Confluence scans of my 1976 and 1977 MRC catalogs which I recently located. Its in pretty good shape except for the need for some gelcoat repair and the need to replace the gunwale. No wood rot. Are you sure you are not missing a character in that HIN (hull identification number). You can find nearby dealers by using their dealer locator tool. We greatly appreciate your business and look forward to getting you out on the water. New listings: Canoe - Mad River Screamer - $620 (Jamestown), Mad River Lamoile Canoe - $1 000 (Hogwaller) If its lightly used as the ad says then its a great deal. Having the weight directly above the scale is more sensible. You are using an out of date browser. 2) The floor just seems to have a "bubble" just like the foam core Kevlar builds show. 1) The FC (Fiberglass Cloth) build does not show the floor being painted with "Protective Surface Paint" like all three of the Kevlar builds do. Archived Catalogs. boats. 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. Thanks. The ad says 40 pounds but Royalex Morningstars are around 55. We are looking for general use mostly lake, pond or get onto the Wisconsin river flowage and paddle around and fish. Introducing the new Explorer 16. Other than the crack in the wood gunwale near the stern end, everything looks fine. The kevlar PVC version was sometimes billed as Kevlar H (for Hybrid). He was selling to move to a kayak as his wife has MS and can no longer manage in the canoe. It is a very high quality boat, built back in the day when Mad River Canoe was one of the premier composite canoe builders, if not the premier maker. Mad Rivers prices range depending on the material used for the canoe and the model. Like Mad River, they are extremely affordable. heres a thead from the archives: Theyve been in business for more than 100 years, and today they tailor their canoes to recreational paddlers. The Journey 156 is a design thats at home wherever you paddle, offering a blend of sophistication and durability. A couple even older models show up - a 1980 vintage Pathfinder 15 (which seems to be the predecessor to the camper) - though I am unclear what the weight might be - Old Town Pathfinder Oltonar, and this cedar fiberglass from 1976 a Mansfield Stowe 15 foot - Mansfield Stowe - Seems like this company has been out of business since the late 1990s -. Also the hanger bolts are all bent just so as to make everything hang perfect & tight. Thanks for buying that boat. If you cant find a kevlar canoe you like, then buy a fiberglass one that is not too big. I am trying to contact the person who posted the ad. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. You must log in or register to reply here. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. I would imagine a well-built glass canoe such as this will not oil-can and am wondering if typical kevlar ultralights do? I still don't know what to make of the camo pattern inside and out. If anyone has information, please share. The cane may well be original and 25 years old. The equally attractive carbon fiber version is an airy 40 pounds. Sunrunner. Thank you! Id suggest youd be best off with flat web/cane seats than molded uni-directional seats so you can paddle solo from the bow seat facing backwards to bring your solo paddler weight closer to the middle of the canoe. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. 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